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Does Tutankhamun's DNA Prove He Was Western European?

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It is astounding the length that those who blindly defend the status quo in Egyptology go to defend the 'accepted' ideas of the Egyptian Antiquities establishment. The recent revelation that King Tutankhamun and his ancestors have R1b1b2 (R1b1a1a2 (R-M269) since 2017) y-dna has upset them greatly. They even set up a straw man that because Tutankhamun is R1b then his ancestors come from Western Europe. One such website is called Paleobabble , which itself descends into babble in trying to explain the dna of Tutankhamun. They even try to claim that even if Tutankhamun does have R1b, then it might be a mutation and his ancestors are not R1b. As the evidence demonstrates that Tutankhamin's father and grandfather are of the same R1b M269 y-dna, as he is himself, this is patently ludicrous. The article by Kate Phizacherley linked to this article then endeavours to confuse the issue by talking about Chadic African R1b-V88 as the source of the R1b of Tutankhamun. However, it is clear that Tutankhamun is not R1b-V88 but R1b M269.

Ancient Egyptian captives from Palestine wore tartan-style garments

Of course the ancestors of Tutankhamun don't come from Western Europe and are certainly not Scottish but they do share the R1b M269 y-dna that is very common in Western Europe, especially in Spain, Portugal, France, Britain and Ireland. Many of these people seem to be out of date on their knowledge of the origin of R1b. In the recent past many thought it originated in the Iberian Peninsular but further studies have proven that it originated in the Middle East or Western Asia. In fact, I believe that the most common y-dna of the ancient Israelites was R1b and even today, based on y-dna results so far, it would seem about 20-30 percent of Jews have R1b y-dna (30-40% of Sephardim and 10-15% of Ashkenazim). Both the ancient Israelites from whom R1b descends and the ancient Josephites from whom R1a descends wore tartan style garments.


Statue believe by David Rohl to be Joseph with Red hair and tartan-style cloak




It would seem that recent testing of the DNA of the mummy of Tutankhamun and the mummies of other 18th Dynasty royals have demonstrated that Tutankhamun and his grandfather Amenhotep III belong to R1b M269 or R1b1a1a2 (since 2017), a haplogroup found commonly in Western Europe. This has caused a great upset in certain circles. However, those who accept the revision of Egyptian history suggested by the Jewish genius Immanuel Velikovsky should not be surprised. It would seem that Zahi Hawass is also hiding more results that don't fit with accepted Eygptologists theories. Reading through all the discussions it would seem that there is a break in the Y-dna of the 18th Dynasty. One article on Wikipedia states that the dna evidence shows Thutmose III is not the son of Thutmose II. However reading the study the article references this doesn't seem to be what it says. However I do believe there may be a break in the y-dna line and that Amenhotep II is not the natural son of Thutmose III but his relative and adopted son.

Velikovsky and Isaac Newton stated that Thutmose III was the Pharoah Shishak mentioned in the Bible who sacked Jerusalem in the 5th year of the reign of King Rehoboam the son of King Solomon. Velikovsky also in his book "Ages in Chaos" associated the Queen of Sheba with Queen Hatshepsut who was the aunt, step mother and regent for Thutmose III. Egyptologists state that Thutmose II who was the husband of Hatshepsut was also the father of Thutmose III by another wife Iset. We know that Queen Hatshepsut had a sister Nefrubity who disappears from Egyptian history and is assumed to have died young by many Egyptologists. However some who follow Velikovsky believe that she was the Royal Egyptian wife of King Solomon. I propose that Amenhotep II (Prince Siamun) is in fact the young cousin of Thutmose III who was brought back to Egypt with his mother at the time of his raid on Jerusalem and with the death of his own son Amenemhat made him his heir. Thutmose III married his aunt who now took the name Hatshepsut-Merytre in honour of her older sister. Thus Amenhotep II became the step son of Thutmose III. Amenhotep II's brother (or nephew) may have been Yuya also a son (or grandson) of Solomon (who was also called Yedidiya) and his Egyptian wife. Amenhotep II was married to his cousin Tia (Tamar) the beautiful daughter of Prince Absalom of Israel.

Tutankhamun and R1b M269 DNA


Thus Amenhotep II and his descendants are of the same y-dna as the Davidic Royal House. Elsewhere I have discussed the Davidic y-dna as R1b-L21 (downstream of R1b M269) of the House of Nathan. It is therefore interesting that the y-dna of Tutankhamun, his father (some believe his father was Akhenaten others his brother Smenkare) and grandfather Amenhotep III are R1b M269. Amenhotep II also had a son called Userstatet the King's Son of Kush who may have been the Zerah the Cushite (Ethiopian) of the Bible. It is also possible that he was the ancestor of the Ethiopian Solomonic Dynasty. Userstatet's father is also called Siamun which is the Egyptian version of Solomon. Bathsheba the mother of Solomon was the daughter of Prince Siamun of Egypt (called Ammiel in Hebrew) and she called her son after her father. Egyptologists list Siamun as the brother of Amenhotep I. Also at this time there was a Lector-Priest called Siamun whose mother was called the chantress Amenhotep. Bathsheba's father Siamun converted to the Israelite faith and took the name Ammiel or Eliam. The pagan son of Amon (si-amun) becomes part of the People of God (ammiel). Bathsheba as a daughter of convert parents from the Egyptian Royal family firstly marries the converted Hittite General Uriah. Solomon as a son of a mother of Royal Egyptian origin is considered a suitable husband for Pharoah's Daughter. It is also possible that Lady Tuya (the wife of Lord Yuya) was a daughter of Lord Menna and his wife Princess Henuttawi. Lord Menna was the (yibum) grandson of Prince Nathan of Israel (a full brother of King Solomon his biological grandsire). Menna's tomb can be found in Egypt.

Siamun with his mother Amenhotep and his sister Iretnofret


The y-dna seen on the Discovery programme about Tutankhamun.

DYS 19 - 14 (? not clear)

DYS 385a - 11
DYS 385b - 14
DYS 389i - 13
DYS 389ii - 30
DYS 390 - 24
DYS 391 - 11
DYS 392 - 13
DYS 393 - 13
DYS 437 - 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 - 12
DYS 439 - 10
DYS 448 - 19
DYS 456 - 15
DYS 458 - 16
DYS 635 - 23
YGATAH4 - 11

Thus the y-dna of Tutankhamun's family is R1b M269 y-dna. The Accepted Chronology of Academia dates Tutankhamun and his family to the 14th century BC whereas Velikovsky dates him after 1000 BC as he is a descendant of David and Solomon. I date Tutankhamun's reign to 723-713 BC.

Note: Y-dna R1b1b2 was later changed to be called R1b1a2 and now it is R1b1a1a2 since 2017.

Note 2: In the past I have written that King Tutankhamen and the Davidic House was R1b L21 but the Davidic House and King Tut may have had the ancestral ydna of L21 rather than L21. Thus they may test for R1b M269 which they share in common with many of the descendants of the six sons of Jacob and Leah.


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n other blog articles I wrote about the R1b M269 y-dna of Tutankhamun and his male ancestors. In one of those articles I criticised Kate Phizackerley article. Since then I noticed that she has admitted that she was wrong in regard to a number of points. She writes in response to Natson Nahar: "I agree with you in relation to your point about Tutankhamun's father. If Tut was R1b it would be very unlikely that his father wasn't also R1b. I knew that when I wrote it. I opted for elision because while it's unlikely in 1 generation, it's possible over say 20 or 40 generations for a paternal line to reconverge into R1b. However, with hindsight, I think I was wrong. I'd overlooked that Tutankhamun is 3,400 years (give or take) closer to the origin of R1b than we are. For that reason convergence would be very unlikely and would, had in occurred, left telltales in successive generations. I was wrong on that point..." She also nows thinks that Tutankhamun y-dna is R1b.

Sam Vass writes:"Sample 115 from Beit Jaan of The Druze: A Population Genetic Refugium of the Near East by Behar, Skorecki, Hammer, et alii, May 2008 at PLOS One differs by one with a 15 at DYS437 from the presumed Tut values..."Kate now admits that King Tutankhamun's y-dna may indeed be close to that of some of the Druze who belong to R1b. She writes to Marianne Luban:"...Actually my reading suggests that if Tutankhamun is R1b that a Druze connection is possible as an alternative to Sub-Sharan Africa. Because those two groups diverged some time ago it should theoretically be possible to consider whether Tutankhamun's DNA more closely matches one group or the other that I don't think that the tests done were extensive enough to permit that analysis. For the moment, a Druze link is something I think which should be considered a possibility..."

Marianne Luban writes:"...What I do know is there was, indeed, a genetic study of the Druze and I can post access to the resulting paper if anyone is interested. The Druze individual that Vass claimed has DNA numbers close to those of Tut lives in a village called Beit Jaan situated on Mount Meron in northern Israel. The Druze are a religious sect, not particularly ancient as such things go, only a few hundred years later than Islam. They are Islamic, but most Moslems consider them heretics..."

Kate has seemed obsessed with resisting a claim that Tutankhamun is European. In that point I agree and have always agreed that Tutankhamun is not European but he shares a y-dna that is common in Western Europe. I have always believed and claimed that this y-dna originates in Israel and the Middle East and it would seem that it being found among the Druze community in Israel confirms this. I also notice on y-search that a McNeil from Scotland is a genetic distance of 2 of 13 from Tutankhamun. This McNeil is y-dna R1b-L21 which I have always claimed to be the y-dna of the Davidic House of Nathan and is common in the British Isles.

 
More on Tutankhamun ydna
 

For those who have been following the discussion about the ydna of the Egyptian Pharoah's related to Tutankhamun the following link on CTV News dated 2 August 2011" King Tut Dna European?" may be of interest.

The article discusses how iGenea is offering a ydna test for those interested in finding out if they are closely related to King Tut. Of course they are following the latest evolutionary datings for R1b1a2 that date its genesis back to the Caucasus region around 9,500 years ago and its entry into Europe 7,000 years ago. This is better than the previous datings of R1b and R1b1a2 but still much too old.

Using the actual ydna rates found in R1b families and also taking into account Immanuel Velikovsky's redating of King Tutankhamen's Dynasty to the ninth century BC fits the evidence of a later date much better. This is confirmed by the Radio Carbon datings of artifacts in Tutankhamen's tomb. As Velikovsky wrote: "...In 1971, or seven years later, the British Museum processed palm kernels and mat reed from the tomb of Tutankhamen. The resulting dates, as Dr. Edwards, Curator of the Egyptian Department of the British Museum, wrote to the University of Pennsylvania radiocarbon laboratory, were -899 for the palm kernels and -846 for the mat reed..."

Thus I would date R1b1a2 to between 2,500-2,900 years ago in Ancient Israel. I would also date its parent R1b to about 2,900 - 3000 years ago. A large grouping of R1b1a2 moved in to the Caucasus Mountain region of Assyria about 2,500 years ago and from here moved in different waves into Europe across the Russian (Scythian) steppes. Tutankhamun received his R1b1a2 dna from King Solomon (who married an Egyptian Princess) who lived about 150 years before Tutankhamun according to Velikovsky. Thus his ydna would most likely be R1b1a2 (R1b-M269) y-dna.  This does not mean that Tutankhamun looked like a red-haired Scotsman or like his red-haired ancestor King David. However in the mummies of this dynasty there is evidence of red and blonde hair in the Royal family and their ancestors. One's racial features come from the mix of all one's ancestors not just the ancestry of one's father's direct male line.

Note: Further revision of the datings of the ancient world also need to be taken into account. The date usually given for the destruction of the First Temple of Solomon today is 586 BC whereas Jewish sources say 422-5 BC- in fact I believe it is around 460-5 BC. Solomon lived in the 9th century BC not the tenth. The First Temple was built around the 870 BC. I believe the datings of the Exodus in the 13th dynasty, Solomon in the 18th dynasty and the time of the Babylonian Exile in the 19th dynasty by Velikovsky to be correct. However I believe Velikovsky's dates have to be revised down as he accepted the 586 BC dating of the Destruction of the the First Temple. I believe that originally Jewish authorities dated the Temple to around 460 BC but later adjusted it by 40 years so that the 490 years ended at the destruction of the Second Temple rather than the crucifixion of Jesus. Thus Rameses II lived in the 5th century BC.

 


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